Shoot First, Therapy Later with Jason Kander (feat. Sheila Bynum Coleman)

Shoot First, Therapy Later with Jason Kander (feat. Sheila Bynum Coleman)

With Friends Like These - October 18, 2019 - 1:21:44

This week Jason Kander (@JasonKander) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk about his most recent work with veterans and what brought him there. They cover Jason’s political history, how he got help, and why no one should use running for president to avoid their problems. Afterwards, they discuss ways of finding hope and making change outside of the political sphere. Later, n (@sheilaforva) joins the show to talk about her campaign for delegate in Virginia. They talk about Sheila’s motivation for running and what it would mean to flip the Virginia General Assembly (spoiler: it’s A LOT). Finally, Sheila reminds us that when we vote, we win.Learn more about the Veteran’s Community Project here and the Coleman campaign here.Thanks to our sponsors!FIGS creates the highest quality medical apparel so that medical professionals look their best, feel their best, and perform at their best every day. Every set of FIGS is antimicrobial – protects from germs and bacteria, ridiculously soft, moisture-wicking and features four-way stretch. So, whether you are one of the awesome humans that works in healthcare or someone that wants to say thanks to these deserving folks, FIGS is going to make that easy by providing you with 15% OFF your first purchase by using code FRIENDS at checkout. Head to’s Essentials have the nutrients most of us don’t get enough of from food—all in their clean, absorbable forms. No shady additives or ingredients that can do more harm to your body than good. Visit to start your ritual today and get 10% brings all the amazing services of the U.S. Post Office right to your computer. Right now, get a special offer that includes a 4-week trial PLUS free postage AND a digital scale without any long-term commitment. Just go to, click on the Microphone at the TOP of the homepage and type in FRIENDS.

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New Season: “With Friends Like These: Converts”. Humans tend not to change their minds, so we’re going to see what we can learn from looking at people that have changed their minds about really big things: religion, politics and also psychic healing, criminal justice and more. We’ll examine historical accounts of converts, the ways we change our brain when we change our mind, and we’ll tell the stories of people who’ve been through it all. New episodes every Friday.

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